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Updated July 12, 2007
At the parade, someone
yelled out "Yeah, well it's not in your back yard" Tony Lawrence
I just read Hal's 4th of July parade
letter and feel I must comment on what I feel were some incorrect
observations.
While I do have a No Casino sign on my lawn
I will agree that there probably was someone on my lawn saying "yes
casino", they are friends of mine and by the way they do not live in
Middleboro. Response: I didn't count people who cheered because
they were cheering everyone. Instead I tried to count those who gave a
clear indication of support for the casino either by a "thumbs up" or by
shouting something like "yea casino". I remove the picture of your
sisters.
2 Letters from former Casinofacts supporters
7/2/07
I feel my story needs to be heard. Casinofact.org needs to
stop trying to bully people around.
I wrote a response to one of the articles written by Mark
Belanger who is a very vocal leader of the anti-casino group. In my
response I critiqued his article because he completely contradicted
himself throughout it. After I submitted my article, he changed his blog
format and now no one can post a response to anything he writes.
I am a 22 year old college student and, believe it or not,
a leader of tomorrow. Mr. Belanger completely swept my critique under the
rug and ignored it. Maybe it was because of my age.
What people need to understand is that there are always two
sides to every story and if you are going to take a stand on one side
there is going to be critique from the other. Mr. Belanger has no problem
being very vocal when opposing and critiquing the casino, but apparently
when he was critiqued he could not handle it.
There is a bigger issue here. For the longest time I just
watched both sides of the casino debate go back and forth, but now after
this experience with casinofact.org I need to vocalize my opinion on the
issue.
The side that is for the casino needs to be more vocal and
not get pushed around by the people who are opposed to the casino. That
is why I am posting this on here, to let the public know how I was treated
by those who oppose the casino. On this website, both the pros and cons,
about the casino get posted, maybe that is symbolic of the open-mindedness
of those who are for the casino.
6/29/07
I am ashamed that I was a member of Casionfacts.org when it first started. I thought there would be logical
people working with the town and the community to get out there message.
I also thought there would be several points of view showing the Pros &
Cons of having a Casino in our town but as it turned out, there are some
very negative people involved.
I have many neighbors involved in the group
who are wonderful people but there is now a growing population who are
not for the Casino and definitely not for Casinofacts.org. I asked one
of the members what his backup plan is if indeed they did fail and he
assured me that they won’t. I have also spoken to at least two members
from the group who will move if they do not succeed in defeating the
Wampanoag Tribe in their attempt to build this. Why would I or anyone
else want to support people that are ready to bail out when the hardest
work will happen after the deal becomes official? It bothers me to write
this because like I said, there are some really nice people trying to
fight this but are going to be left disappointed by a few bad apples.
They’re even talking about disrupting the Tribe’s spiritual gathering in
two weeks which would be as bad as someone disrupting Easter or
Christmas mass.
When the proposal first came about I was
dead set against anyone coming in and ruining this town. I moved here to
get away from the fast pace of the City and all of the noise that goes
with it. I have finally become a realist and I know this is going to
happen. Yes there will probably be a commuter rail station at the old
Rockland Industry site and there will be Limos and tour buses from as
far away as Salem down to Hyannis coming here. So here is the question I
have: What are the rest of us going to do about it?
How about preserving what we have like Peter
Oliver’s Mill.
How about preserving 110 year old hand made
bridge that goes across the Nemasket River on Plymouth Street.
What about preserving our Herring run.
Let’s talk about connecting the North side
of town to the center of town by raising Route 44.
In closing I would like to add the our house
is divided over this but we can sit down, talk and pass ideas back and
forth like adults and not bully each other. I believe that other groups
will soon immerge both for and against the Casino but will show their
respect to the people on the other side of the dispute rather than
trying to “Bully” them into their way of thinking. This is dividing a
once friendly town and my fear is we will all have Stockade Fences
between us when it is finally over. For the record, I have been
“Blacklisted” (There words not mine) from Casinofacts.org because I
changed my E-Mail address and couldn’t be any happier. Maybe they should
change the name to Casinnegativefacts.org.
Good luck to the nice people of
Middleborough and the Wampanoag Tribe.
6/28/07
I have lived in the area my entire life. (more or less)
I remember when we still had an abundance of Cranberries
that overflowed the
Where is that now? No tax relief, that's where it is.
Middleborough made the decision to take a big hit. It always has. I'd Like
to say I'm against the Casino, but Money buys. It can't buy you happiness,
but it can buy you tools to learn and grow. What we have now is an
opportunity to give the town what it needs. Sure it may look like a wolf
in sheep's clothing, but we as a town are severely lacking (financially)
in several factions that we citizens often take for granted.
Do they really need all that new gear and new vehicles and
more staff? Yes.
We are running quite well aren't we? No. We are running on
what we have (whichis not much) we could be running much better. Think of your children. And
those
of you who don't have children, or hate children, or those of you who only
want
your taxes to go someplace that involves you and not the entirety of the
community, think of it like this; If we have optimal education in this
town,
these kids will grow up and give back to the town that has provided for
them.
However, if they see that their town doesn't care for them, they will care
for the town and grow up despising the town that created them and causing
alarm
for the rest of us (crime and such). Granted that's a big accusation it
may not
See above.
(Didn't think you'd see this one huh?) We are so lucky that
we pay NOTHING for
trash removal. It is one of the MANY reasons my family moved here in the
first
place. Without a good solid source of income, you may be handling your "crap" on
your own.
This is one that is nearest and Dearest to me because this
is where i was every
summer (Pierce playground). First I played there and learned how to swim
and
play sports. I learned how to be a better person by being there. It's not
a
Yes there are concerns about this Casino.
Does one person have all the answers? NO. But we can work
together as a
community to accomplish something better than what we have. Instead of
belittling our rebirth we can help adapt it and advance it.
J. T. Quake,
6/28/07
I have lived in
Middleboro year round since 1983 and came seasonally since 1955 when the
Woods Lake area was primarily summer residents and many of us didn’t even
have telephones in our cottages back then.
In these 50 years I
have seen many, many changes to the Town, but I believe the introduction
of the Casino represents nothing more than another step away from the
sleepy little town it once was, and this is not a bad thing. Middleboro
has seen significant growth since the opening of Route 495 and then the
commuter rail. Property values have risen, land has been developed and
change has just been a fact of life. Krazy days are gone and shopping
malls are springing up all around us, Taunton, Plymouth and Wareham (under
construction).
I support the Casino as
a revenue generating addition to our Middleboro. I fear that anything else
constructed on this same property may not provide any revenue to the Town
whatsoever.
Thomas Morse
6/27/07
6/27/07
6/25/07
Although not directly related to the Casino, I happen to be
reading Nathaniel Philbrick's "Mayflower", which is the history of the
Pilgrims, and of course the Wamponoags figure heavily there.
Response:
One of these days (when) the casino comes and the library
is fully
This is your library working for you. Let's all remember
that it is operating on a bit less than a reduced budget of 10% this year
and that unless the resort casino brings an infusion of cash to the
coffers of Middleboro the library and other quality of life services will
continue to be cut.
6/21/07
I just wanted to say I was born here in 1971 and we moved
away (only one town). I am now back. I have been here for the last 7
years. I think we need some excitement around this "one horse town".
There is nothing to do for miles that we haven't done 100 times!!! I
would rather drive 5 min. Instead of 2 hours and I'd rather spend my
hard earned money in my own town than spend it in another state!!!!
I hope this happens!!!!!!!!
6/21/07
Route 24 is the road I
have to use to get to and from work every work day. (Fall
River to Canton).
I have been making this circuit for 10 years now and there really aren’t
any practical alternative routes.
Rt24, in my opinion,
handles a maximum capacity right now. I have found the Rt. 44 exit area,
in both directions, to be a bottleneck area at least once a week. Although
it is not the worse part of the highway for traffic problems, (that
distinction goes to the rt495 and exit 18 areas), I still fear that the
additional traffic the casino would create will really tick me off on a
regular basis.
I am not looking forward
to deal with the merging pissed-off drunks in the morning and the drop off
for a “few pulls and hands crowd” in the evening. I go to Foxwoods
occasionally so I am not totally against casinos, but unlike Middleboro,
Foxwoods is isolated and have many more access
roads, not to mention rt 95 is a much more
robust corridor.
My questions are:
How
I vote if and when the issue reaches the state wide ballots, may be
determined by the answers to the above questions. Regards, Ed Schill
Response: We can't answer your first three
questions, but we suggest you submit them to the Casino Study Committee on
the attached form. Committee
member
Eric Cederholm is going to be looking into the
traffic impact of a casino. You can drop these off
at Town Hall or the Library. Our resident shrink (me) can discuss your
fourth concern with your wife, and I'd be happy to do so waiving my usual
outrageous fee as appreciate for the rare bit of humor during this
controversy.
6/20/07
To Casino-Friend:
I'll probably be able to see this thing from my front yard,
but I'm 6/20/07 To Casino-Friend:
Sincerely,
6/19/07
Hi
I am totally for the Casino. I think it would be a huge BENEFIT for the
town. I really hope the tribe has a little patience for the contract to be
hammered out.
My question is what is the "time line" for the
selectman to accept, reject or counter offer?
Donna Asbury
Response: The time line as far as the Mashpee
Wampanoag is unknown to us, although they have made it clear that they
want the decision to be made in a matter of weeks, not months.
6/17/07
To Casino-Friend:
I have been present at every town meeting regarding the Casino.
Yes. we need a business in town that will generate income for the
town. I DON'T frown at 7 million dollars a year with another 8 million
a year generated from the slot machines. This agreement is renegotiable
within a determined window allowing for an increase of dollars for the
town, but this agreement states the dollars can NEVER go below 7
million.
Some of the " letters to the editors" FEAR the influx of "those" people
who will move into town and change the character of this loving and warm
community. They fear this town will become another Brockton, New
Bedford, etc. Has anyone read the weekly police logs lately? Crime is
here and it is not being committed by "those" people.
I understand and feel for those who will live in close proximity to the
Casino. I also understand that the Wompanoags cannot buy out everyone.
I know that with this change you cannot and never will please at least 5
percent of the town's residents. The request to recall the selectmen is a topic in itself. What will
prevent these selectmen from signing
this agreement NOW knowing they have nothing to lose. All it takes is a
majority vote.
This is all I will state at this time.
I AM FOR THIS CASINO. Diane Bassett
6/15/07
To Casino Friend:
I hope the Casino Plans include a grant to SRPEDD to study
the continuing regional impact with the possibility of some form of
compensation to the neighboring communities that will have impacts and no
income. A project this large is a regional phenomenon. I am a past
chairman of SRPEDD and live on a feeder road to Middleboro so I'm
particularly sensitive to this issue.
Karl Ekland
6/14/07
To Casino-Friend:
I and my family are totally in favor of the
casino being built in Middleboro. I have lived in Middleboro since 1977
and I think it will be a great asset to the community and to the state
and the people who live here.
Kathy Dillon
6/14/07
To Casino-Friend:
Yeah!!!! Show me the $$$! Bring it on in Natives! Those
old-fashioned, stubborn Middleborough people don't know what kind of
opportunity they have. Do ya think they really wanted to live in
Cranberryville for the rest of their lives?! Not to mention that we owe
this to those Natives for what we did to them and what we took from them
years ago. Wow, all I can say is that if my town had this kind of
opportunity, you'd see me and my friends helping to pave new roads!!! This
IS THE UNITED STATES, after all. Tell those old-fashioned folks to move to
Europe or Canada.
Joe Mac
6/13/07
Letter removed at request of author. Our letter
policy has changed. As of this date once posted a letter will not be
removed except under extraordinary circumstances.
6/12/07
To Casino-Friend:
Wow. I am so shocked at how quickly our selectmen are
working to finalize this casino issue. I didn't buy my house this
quickly! Whether for or against a casino, I don't think moving this
quickly is a good thing for our town.
We can do better financially if
we and our selectmen become more educated in the decisions that they
are embarking upon. Isn't that why our town got a group of citizens
together to analyze the pros and cons of a casino? Does their
assessment no longer matter?
Why then did our moderator organize such
a group - just to pacify us?
I can definitely state that I am less thrilled with our
choices for selectmen based on how they are going about their decisions. I
am starting to agree with the opponents of this casino and the opponents
of our selectmen. Whether for or against a casino at this stage of
the game, Middleboro is losing out financially. 7 million is a drop in the
bucket. We could do way better than that.
Suzanne Swarze
Response:
6/12/07
To Casino Friend:
My husband and I are in favor of a casino, I have lived in this town all
my life and not far from the proposed casino. I think that the people
that are in favor of this casino must speak out because the only news we
are getting are the people that are opposed and they do not speak for my
husband and me. I have talked to many of the residents in this town and
they are in favor of the casino complex but do not feel the need to get
out and hold a sign. Anyone who says they don't want the town to change
is too late, it changed when the commuter rail came to town. It is not
the same town that I was brought up in (also my mother was born in this
town, so that really makes me a native) but that is life, life changes
and this change will be good for everyone.
Arlene & Don Dickens
Response: Please let your friends who support a casino know it
is important to make their presence known. Coming to the Selectman's
Meeting Wednesday, 7PM at the High School, would be a good start. Let them know we have free bumper stickers too. We hope that after all is said and done, even those
who fought against a casino come to the realization that, as you write "that
is life, life changes and this change will be good for everyone."
6/10/07
To Casino-Friend.com:
Thank you for a wonderful site that is very
informative and I wish you well in this venture. I have one question that
has been asked of me, as a sitting Middleborough School Board Member......
What will the town receive back in lieu of
taxes payment....towards essential town services?...
You mentioned the Middleborough Police....yes,
security is a major concern but also, The Middleborough Fire Dept, the
ambulance service, and the schools. I don't have to tell you or your
committee how hard it is for the Middleborough Schools to continue to
offer a great education to the current school age population of this
town.....approx. 3700 students.
If this Casino is built along with it will
come the tribal leaders& workers of the Casino, who will most likely
purchase homes or rent in this area. We as a town will have to educate
those children and I'd like to see some type of promise to pay towards our
local school system, NOT just towards general government services.
We are a budget to ourselves in this town and
need to be heard with this Casino proposal, as well as general govt.
depts.
Thank you again for this chance to ask this
important question.
Sincerely,
Response:
Dear Ms. Martin:
Thank you for your question. We are a group of three
residents, Joe Frietas, Hal Brown and Kathy Ryan, who put together this
website. We not a "board".
We can't answer your question about what the town will
receive in lieu of taxes to fund the increased demand on service. This
is because this question involves what is worked out in negotiations
between the leaders of the Mashpee Wampanoag and Middleborough
officials.
I think it is reasonable to assume that Dr. Sullivan and the
Middleborough School Committee will be working closely with all town
officials as the negotiations with the tribe progresses.
As you are acutely aware, as the number of children in
our schools increased with the new homes constructed over the past few
years, Middleborough's existing tax base couldn't handle increased
school spending and increases in other budget items. In short, what led
to our current fiscal crisis is that we couldn't grow, let alone
maintain, existing town services without an override or some other
"rabbit out of the hat" windfall.
The prospect of an increase in population due to the
casino means that more demands will be put on the schools, as well as
other services and on the town infrastructure.
That is why the Board of Selectmen must negotiate a legal
agreement with the Mashpee Wampanoag which not only makes up for the
taxes they won't be paying, but is substantially in excess of what they
would have to pay if they weren't tax exempt.
We believe that a casino is a unique addition to a town
like ours, not just because it is a $100 million business, but it brings
such a variety of potential problems. To be good neighbors they have to
contribute their fair share to the town coffers.
We have
unofficially talked to some of the leaders of then tribe and
believe that they are the antithesis of the greedy entrepreneurs
a number of our residents claim they are, though
they surely are entrepreneurs.
Obviously they want the best for the members of their tribe, and their
investors. But we wouldn't have started this website unless we believed
they also wanted the best for Middleborough.
6/10/07
To Casino-Friend.com:
Ever
wonder why a casino may be built in Middleboro and not on the
file
land claims to land held in private hands in the Town of Mashpee and on
Cape Cod.
build
a casino in the Town of Mashpee or elsewhere on Cape Cod, when it
achieves recognition, therefore I move that the Board vote not to submit
comments to the U.S. Department of the Interior on or before the October
3rd filing deadline.”
Thank you,
Question
Authority. But always raise your hand first!
Response: There are several practical considerations for not
building a huge resort casino anywhere on Cape Cod. First, it would
draw so many customers that the two bridges couldn't handle the
traffic, even off season. Consider that it isn't only a merge from a
divided highway to a two way road that slows traffic. Traffic also
backs up because cars traveling at 65 mph or more have to slow down
to 50 mph on the bridges. Of course, the Bourne Bridge still has a
rotary on the Cape side, and that's a direct route to Mashpee from
points south and west. Add to all the above that in the summer weekend
back-ups of traffic to and from the Cape are notorious and the Route 3
fly-over hasn't worked as well as expected. Think of what they'd be
like with a casino.
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